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Chuck Taylor

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Your assumption is the worst case scenario.


#1 - There are two audiences in the impeachment process, the congress in total, and the viewing public. While sheer partisan politics on the part of the GOP Senators may make a non-conviction a foregone conclusion, I think the reaction of the other audience may be decidedly different. Btw, an acquittal is more likely to anger voters as they know the jury has been "rigged". So, no an acquittal does not mean re-election and frankly I believe the reverse to be true. Resultingly, more information detrimental to Trump and his chance, is certain to be introduced to America, during the process. That's what happened in Watergate and I expect the same this time.

#2 - My recollection of the Clinton/Lewinsky affair was much more about perjury as it pertained to the impeachment process than the "blow by blow" of the affair itself. This pre-dated the Me Too thing by 20 years.

#3 My expectations are that Trump (if he runs) will lose. I don't know that we can rely on him being "trounced". Frankly, I don't see much to support your view that an election loss does anything at all to bring him to account for his crimes, much less to return the GOP to the GOP as we knew it. In the event of a defeat, he just changes mailing addresses moves his furniture out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.....end of story. The wreckage he made remains in his wake. Who can say what the after effects will really be?

#4 - Yes the consequences to impeachment are largely unknowable, I completely agree. With that said, I wish to focus on two areas of comfort for those who wish for a just outcome. First of all, we know beyond a shadow doubt that impeachment is NOT electorally helpful to the man being impeached or his successor, if history is instructional. Both Ford and Gore were defeated in close contests due in part to their linkage with previous impeachments. Lastly and more importantly to me, impeachment is the Right thing to do, in terms of upholding the rule of law, restoring the principles you and I spoke of, and protecting our constitution.

(In response to this post by hoolstoptheheels)

Posted: 10/07/2019 at 2:16PM



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Current Thread:
  Goodwill donations suspiciously high ** -- HokieDan95 10/07/2019 12:44PM
  Yes we know you will fit in the conspiracy bucket ** -- TomKazanski 10/07/2019 12:29PM
  Preaching to the choir on this one. -- Chuck Taylor 10/07/2019 12:39PM
  Your assumption is the worst case scenario. -- Chuck Taylor 10/07/2019 2:16PM
  I don't assume the worst case, I assume total uncertainty. -- hoolstoptheheels 10/07/2019 2:59PM
  I have to agree with you -- hooinblueville 10/07/2019 1:43PM
  I am expecting a Mitt Romney type of return. -- Guy LeDouche 10/07/2019 11:16AM
  Yepa, remind me of Romney -- VaTechie 10/07/2019 11:50AM
  Oh, there's almost no doubt in my mind he would show -- BocaHoo91 10/07/2019 11:30AM
  Sorry, but that analogy is patently ridiculous. -- hoolstoptheheels 10/07/2019 11:11AM
  I don't know if there is blatant tax fraud ... -- Blah 10/07/2019 11:10AM
  Over under until they are leaked? ** -- TomKazanski 10/07/2019 10:28AM
  The fact that they haven't yet is telling -- Beerman 10/07/2019 11:29AM
  No reason to worry about that, right, Tom? -- DanTheFan 10/07/2019 10:33AM
  I know ''something'' will be found, real or imagined ** -- HokieDan95 10/07/2019 10:40AM
  No they just report the garbage he says and does -- 111Balz 10/07/2019 11:58AM
  That has to get an LOL. It's pure conspiracy theory. -- hoolstoptheheels 10/07/2019 11:58AM
  Don't forget 2 scoops of ice cream!!! ** -- HokieDan95 10/07/2019 12:01PM
  Everything the hokie posts is laughable ** -- 111Balz 10/07/2019 12:00PM
  Your insecurity is even more so ** -- HokieDan95 10/07/2019 12:17PM
  Uh, another word you need to look up? ** -- 111Balz 10/07/2019 12:36PM
  You aren't fooling anyone ** -- HokieDan95 10/07/2019 2:33PM
  Not a few on here ** -- 81_Hokie 10/07/2019 09:57AM

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